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DIOTIMA: *I am Diotima, born in Mantineia, and another one of the many grandstanders and sophists of Athens. Sometimes, we're called philosophers.*
DIOTIMA: *Our job is generally to make arguments that at times, provoke and at others, convince. For most, truth-seeking is secondary.*
DIOTIMA: *If all it takes is some empty rhetoric, and a few parlor tricks to convince people then why try? People confuse right from left, how can they tell right from wrong?*
DIOTIMA: *There are still a few of us who are insane enough to take on the burden of truth though.*
DIOTIMA: *Most of us have a kind of obsession to center their ideas around. Thales has water, Pythagoras has numbers, and then I have love.*
DIOTIMA: *Recently, I have taken to teaching others under my wing.*
DIOTIMA: *It is also useful for keeping my coin satchel full and mouth fed.*
DIOTIMA: *[[Here comes one of my students now.|SOCRATES 2]]*
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DIOTIMA: Socrates! Good to see you.
SOCRATES: Good day to you, Diotima!
DIOTIMA: You're sounding chipper today, any new discoveries?
SOCRATES: That's right! You see this new coat of mine?
SOCRATES: I've discovered that you can use drawing compasses to make a hook.
SOCRATES: Tie it to a string and it'll hook onto any garment left unguarded.
DIOMATA: *This is Socrates, a young student of mine. However, he isn't from a wealthy family like most of them so he makes due however he can.*
DIOTIMA: Clever. Not at all moral or right though.
SOCRATES: How can you prove that? Aren't all moral judgements relative?
DIOTIMA: *He has recently rediscovered what all sophists had always known.*
DIOTIMA: *Nearly all ideas can be doubted. Especially if your opponent believes it. It's made him insufferable; more so than usual.*
DIOTIMA: I don't know, but do you have proof to the contrary?
SOCRATES: Turning it back on me. This is exactly what I pay you for! Let me try...
[[Begin dialogue with Socrates|SOCRATES 3]]
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SOCRATES: All ideas can be doubted.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 3a]] or
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT a]]
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SOCRATES: All material things cannot be doubted.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 3b]] or
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT b]]
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SOCRATES: All sensory things cannot be doubted.
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT b]]
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SOCRATES: That means, I am neither right nor wrong as those are not real qualities I can have.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 3c]] or
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT c]]
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SOCRATES: Therefore, right and wrong can be doubted.
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT c]]
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[[Start|SOCRATES 1]]
[[Instructions|INSTRUCTIONS]]
[[About|ABOUT]]
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[[Go back.|TITLE]]DIOTIMA: Why can all ideas be doubted?
SOCRATES: Because ideas are arbitrary. If we disagree on how tall the Parthenon is, there is a fact in reality that we are pointing to.
SOCRATES: Ideas like justice and love cannot be measured the same way we measure with rulers. We can argue as much as we want but there is no physical thing we can use to resolve our argument.
SOCRATES: Thus, they can be doubted.
[[Go back.|SOCRATES 3]]
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TIMA: What are material things by your definition?
SOCRATES: Material things are anything that I can see, hear, hold, or sense basically. I could rephrase it as:
SOCRATES: All sensory things cannot be doubted.
[[Fascinating.|SOCRATES 3]]
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DIOTIMA: Could you formalize that? Generalize your conclusion, I mean.
SOCRATES: Sure. I'd rephrase it as:
SOCRATES: Therefore, right and wrong can be doubted.
[[Fascinating.|SOCRATES 3]]
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DIOTIMA: Interesting point, Socrates.
SOCRATES: Thank you. Does that mean you agree?
DIOTIMA: No. It's interesting because of how wrong it is.
SOCRATES: Ah.
DIOTIMA: All material things cannot be doubted that might have been true if we were perfect beings. However, senses can betray us.
DIOTIMA: You recall the construction of the Parthenon, correct? Its pillars were refined to bend slightly to correct for what we call an optical illusion.
DIOTIMA: Two parallel lines, no matter the true straightness, seem to curve outwards when intersected by converging lines.
DIOTIMA: A bit of geometric trivia from your back alley Pythagoras.
DIOTIMA: That means we can, in fact, doubt material things given they rely on our imperfect senses.
SOCRATES: I see!
SOCRATES: I'm learning so much from your argument!
DIOTIMA: Is that right? Does that mean you're ready to accept you were in the wrong?
SOCRATES: Hold on, we're not quite there yet. [[My argument still holds.|SOCRATES 4]]
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SOCRATES: It is true that material things can be doubted on the basis of our imperfect senses.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 4a]] or
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 4 PRESENT a]]
SOCRATES: But that does not change that all ideas can be doubted as well.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 4b]] or
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 4 PRESENT b]]
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SOCRATES: My original conclusion remains that right and wrong can be doubted.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 4c]] or
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 4 PRESENT c]]
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SOCRATES: Man is the measure of all things.
[[PRESENT|SOCRATES 4 PRESENT c]]
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SOCRATES: All ideas can be doubted.
[[RETURN|SOCRATES 3]]
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- [[{idea2}|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT a]]
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SOCRATES: Real things cannot be doubted.
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SOCRATES: All sensory things cannot be doubted.
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[[RETURN|SOCRATES 3]]
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SOCRATES: That means, I am neither right nor wrong as those are not real qualities I can have.
[else]
SOCRATES: Therefore, right and wrong can be doubted.
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[[RETURN|SOCRATES 3]]
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- [[{idea2}|SOCRATES 3 PRESENT c]]
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