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DIOTIMA: *Who am I, you ask? I'm still getting a handle on that, hold on. Let me try and retrace my steps.*
DIOTIMA: *I am... Diotima, born in Mantineia, yes that sounds right.*
DIOTIMA: *And I am another one of the many grandstanders and sophists of Athens. Sometimes, we're called philosophers.*
DIOTIMA: *Our job is generally to make arguments that at times, provoke and at others, convince. For most, truth-seeking is secondary.*
DIOTIMA: *If all it takes is some empty rhetoric, and a few parlor tricks to convince people then why try? People confuse right from left, how can they tell right from wrong?*
DIOTIMA: *There are still a few of us who are insane enough to take on the burden of truth though.*
DIOTIMA: *Most of us have a kind of obsession to center their ideas around. Thales has water, Pythagoras has numbers, and then I have love.*
DIOTIMA: *Sorry, I HAD love. That part of my life is behind me now.*
DIOTIMA: *Recently, I have taken to teaching others under my wing.*
DIOTIMA: *It is also useful for keeping my coin satchel full and mouth fed.*
DIOTIMA: *[[Here comes one of my students now.|SOCRATES 2]]*
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DIOTIMA: Socrates! Good to see you.
SOCRATES: Good day to you, Diotima!
DIOTIMA: You're sounding chipper today, any new discoveries?
SOCRATES: That's right! You see this new coat of mine?
SOCRATES: I've discovered that you can use drawing compasses to make a hook.
SOCRATES: Tie it to a string and it'll hook onto any garment left unguarded.
DIOTIMA: *This is Socrates, a young student of mine. However, he isn't from a wealthy family like most of them so he makes do however he can.*
DIOTIMA: Clever. Not at all moral or right though.
SOCRATES: How can you prove that? Aren't all moral judgements relative?
DIOTIMA: *He has recently fallen into the traps many sophists are tricked into believing.*
DIOTIMA: *Nearly all ideas can be doubted. Especially if your opponent believes it. It's made him insufferable; more so than usual.*
DIOTIMA: I don't know, but do you have proof to the contrary?
SOCRATES: Turning it back on me. This is exactly what I pay you for! Let me try...
[[Begin dialogue with Socrates|SOCRATES 3]]
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SOCRATES: All ideas can be doubted.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 3a]] or
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[[Start|SOCRATES 1]]
[[Instructions|INSTRUCTIONS]]
[[About|ABOUT]]
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You are a **PHILOSOPHER**.
Engage your opponents in **DIALOGUE**.
**QUESTION** their arguments.
**PRESENT** your ideas to the contrary.
**SEARCH** for truth.
Figure out **LOVE**.
<a href="https://jacoder23.itch.io/thegadflyofgensokyo/devlog/442807/spoilerless-walkthrough">READ the tips and spoilerless walkthrough.</a>
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DIOTIMA: Why can all ideas be doubted?
SOCRATES: Because ideas are arbitrary. If we disagree on how tall the Parthenon is, there is a fact in reality that we are pointing to.
SOCRATES: Ideas like justice and love cannot be measured the same way we measure with rulers. We can argue as much as we want but there is no physical thing we can use to resolve our argument.
SOCRATES: Thus, they can be doubted.
[[Go back.|SOCRATES 3]]
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DIOTIMA: What are material things by your definition?
SOCRATES: Material things are anything that I can see, hear, hold, or sense basically. I could rephrase it as:
SOCRATES: All sensory things cannot be doubted.
[[Fascinating.|SOCRATES 3]]
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DIOTIMA: Could you formalize that? Generalize your conclusion, I mean.
SOCRATES: Sure. I'd rephrase it as:
SOCRATES: Therefore, right and wrong can be doubted.
[[Fascinating.|SOCRATES 3]]
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DIOTIMA: Interesting point, Socrates.
SOCRATES: Thank you. Does that mean you agree?
DIOTIMA: No. It's interesting because of how wrong it is.
SOCRATES: Ah.
DIOTIMA: All material things cannot be doubted that might have been true if we were perfect beings. However, senses can betray us.
DIOTIMA: You recall the construction of the Parthenon, correct? Its pillars were refined to bend slightly to correct for what we call an optical illusion.
DIOTIMA: Two parallel lines, no matter the true straightness, seem to curve outwards when intersected by converging lines.
DIOTIMA: A bit of geometric trivia from your back alley Pythagoras.
DIOTIMA: That means we can, in fact, doubt material things given they rely on our imperfect senses.
SOCRATES: I see!
SOCRATES: I'm learning so much from your argument!
DIOTIMA: Is that right? Does that mean you're ready to accept you were in the wrong?
SOCRATES: Hold on, we're not quite there yet. [[My argument still holds.|SOCRATES 4]]
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SOCRATES: It is true that material things can be doubted on the basis of our imperfect senses.
[[QUESTION|SOCRATES 4a]] or
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SOCRATES: All ideas can be doubted.
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*"A spectre is haunting Gensokyo — the spectre of dialectics!"*
Depictions are anachronistic, Socrates is largely based on his appearance in The Clouds, a satire, and Diotima did not in fact travel to Gensokyo. This is my warning to any nerds (pulls out locker to stuff you into).
~~By Jacoder23 for Touhou Fan Game Jam 9~~
~~This is the original version of the game submitted to Touhou Fan Game Jam 9.~~
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DIOTIMA: Can that be proven?
SOCRATES: I believe you just did exactly that by using an optical illusion as an example.
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DIOTIMA: So does that mean you believe you can doubt everything?
SOCRATES: I doubt I have to believe that for my argument to hold.
DIOTIMA: Okay, you can't literally doubt everything.
SOCRATES: Sure I can.
DIOTIMA: Can you doubt you can doubt?
SOCRATES: I don't know if I can doubt I can doubt.
DIOTIMA: You don't or you can't?
SOCRATES: I... hm. Well I think my point still stands either which way.
[[Go back.|SOCRATES 4]]
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DIOTIMA: I must ask Socrates, but where did you hear this argument?
SOCRATES: Oh, I heard it from Protagoras preaching atop his mansion's rooftop.
DIOTIMA: And did he have a continuation of this argument?
DIOTIMA: Surely, he did not shout here is no right or wrong, without an elaboration?
SOCRATES: Ah yes, I think he did continue it. But it just didn't seem relevant.
SOCRATES: He said that right and wrong had to exist, of course, but given they had no objective measure that meant they could only have one source.
SOCRATES: Protagoras said that man is the measure of all things.
SOCRATES: He'd do a better job of explaining but I think it can summed up for our argument as:
SOCRATES: Right and wrong are relative and are decided by what each person believes is right or wrong.
[[Insightful..|SOCRATES 4]]
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DIOTIMA: Another interesting stance. So whatever you believe is right is right? That is to say: truth is relative?
SOCRATES: I believe so.
DIOTIMA: Then if I believe that your argument is sham and I have wasted my time as a teacher then am I right?
SOCRATES: Ah.
DIOTIMA: I think it should be self-evident by now that this statement, as succinct and convincing as it sounds at first, is entirely self-defeating.
DIOTIMA: If all it takes is belief then my belief that man is not the measure of all things is a paradox. If my belief is true then the statement is false, if my belief is false then so is the statement.
A pause. In the distance is the buzz of the city's streets.
DIOTIMA: Did I go too hard on the kid?
SOCRATES: Brilliant! I'm so glad to be learning from you, priestess! That argument bothered me for days but I couldn't place why.
DIOTIMA: *Ah, that's the last thing about myself. I might call myself a philosopher but you don't exactly see a lot of women as philosophers.*
DIOTIMA: *My official title is priestess, though a priestess of whom I've not figured out yet.*
DIOTIMA: *I got it when I first arrived in Athens and a plague was spreading.*
DIOTIMA: *I advised the authorities to begin sacrifices to the appropriate Gods and the plague ended just as quickly as it began.*
DIOTIMA: *That got me in with a good standing with the citizens, but until another plague hits I'm stuck between jobs.*
DIOTIMA: *I'm probably still gonna stick with this though as it's been far more rewarding. I'll let those snobs deal with their disasters on their own. What happens to them happens.*
SOCRATES: DIOTIMA? Are you alright?
DIOTIMA: Ah? Yes, yes I am. I was just thinking.
SOCRATES: So was I! I was just wondering that if we assume right and wrong are truths out there somehow, how we could arrive at them?
DIOTIMA: That is a good question. You see…
DIOTIMA stumbles, seemingly slipping on nothing. Socrates moves to help her but she finds her footing.
SOCRATES: Are you all right?
DIOTIMA: Yes, yes. I've just been lightheaded recently.
DIOTIMA: [[As I was sayin—|INTERLUDE 1]]
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DIOTIMA: And then I found myself in what I have no reference to compare to. It was as if I was being pulled by a great thousands of storms, rushing, pulling, screaming in my ear.
DIOTIMA: Then, strange as it sounds, I felt one of the storms... staring at me. I was then hurtling into that particular storm and a quiet darkness surrounded me.
DIOTIMA: In that darkness, I could feel my own self, my identity, my memories leave me. I became but a husk of my former self.
DIOTIMA: Then I opened my eyes, and I was [[here.|INTERLUDE 2]]
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DIOTIMA: *I think we've gotten a bit muddled on our way here. Let me try and retrace my steps again...*
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REIMU: And also you're a ghost now.
REIMU: Didn't really need to know all that but if you've got that out of your system I'm gonna get back to drinking myself to an early death.
DIOTIMA: Ah, of course.
REIMU: I can show you tomorrow where the Yama go to judge people headed for the afterlife and you can ask them any questions you have. But this night festival isn't over until I'm out cold!
REIMU: Get something for yourself if you wanna hang around.
DIOTIMA: Very well.
Diotima, now translucent and with an ectoplasmic tail where her legs used to be, floats over to an juicy, unclaimed skewer of grilled lamprey. Her hand passes straight through it. She's heartbroken.
DIOTIMA: Oh. [[What exactly can I "get for myself"?|INTERLUDE 3]]
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document.getElementById("backdrop").appendChild(cont2);SUIKA: [[Love!|INTERLUDE 4]]
SUIKA: I don't want anything to do with love anymore!
SUIKA hiccups, a comically large bubble leaves her mouth and floats in the air for a full 5 seconds before popping.
DIOTIMA: Is she drunk?
REIMU: She's always drunk. This is just a different stage of it; like going from happy drunk to sad drunk.
Most of the partygoers appear to have either left or are fast asleep. The exception being the short, horned girl apparently called Suika, the festival's organizer, Reimu, and a white-haired girl sitting up against a tree that Diotima feels an odd kinship with.
She appears to be wide awake unlike the rest and sees Diotima. She's staring intently.
REIMU: That's just Youmu. She's not good with ghosts. She's also half-phantom though so take that how you will.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]progressSuikaA: 0
progressSuikaB: 0
progressYoumuA: 0
progressYoumuB: 0
progressReimuA: 0
SuikaComplete: false
YoumuComplete: false
ReimuComplete: false
completed: false
inventory: ["Our senses can be doubted."]
cred: 5
fac: 0
fac2: 0
youmuSlash: false
youmuHalved: false
luck: false
--
DIOTIMA: *Yes, I suppose, I could just do what I've always wanted to do.*
DIOTIMA: *I am willing to bet ghosts have cool powers and use them to do amazing things. So I'm gonna use them to revive my old passion and figure out just what is love!*
As Diotima pumps her fists, a bolt of lightning comes flying out of her and into the sky. After a moment, it comes back down and strikes a boulder, slicing it cleanly in half.
DIOTIMA: *...and then when I'm done I am definitely gonna try and figure out the other side of these powers.*
[[Continue.|HUB]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]
[JavaScript]
document.body.removeAttribute("class");
[continued]
anyComplete: false
anyComplete (SuikaComplete): true
anyComplete (YoumuComplete): true
anyComplete (ReimuComplete): true
--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
[align center]
[after 1 second]
You are a **PHILOSOPHER**.
[align center]
[after 2 seconds]
Engage your opponents in **DIALOGUE**.
[align center]
[after 3 seconds]
**QUESTION** their arguments.
[align center]
[after 4 seconds]
**PRESENT** your ideas to the contrary.
[align center]
[after 5 seconds]
**SEARCH** for truth.
[align center]
[after 6 seconds]
Figure out **LOVE**.
[continued]
[align center]
[if SuikaComplete == false]
[align center]
[[Talk to Suika.|SUIKA 1]] [[Haunt Suika.|SUIKA H 1]]
[continued]
[if ReimuComplete == false]
[align center]
[[Talk to Reimu.|REIMU 1]] [[Haunt Reimu.|REIMU H 1]]
[continued]
[if YoumuComplete == false]
[align center]
[[Talk to Youmu.|YOUMU 1]] [[Haunt Youmu.|YOUMU H 0]]
[continued]
[if ReimuComplete && SuikaComplete && luck == false]
[align center]
[[Something deep within Diotima is returning to her.|Divine Intervention From Author]]
[continued]
[if anyComplete == true]
[align center]
[[I've heard enough.|IDEA CLOUD]]
[continued]
***
[align left]
**Ideas**
[align left]
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li>" + value + "</li>");
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued][align center]
[after 2 seconds]
You know what you have to do.
[align center]
[after 4 seconds]
There are no takebacks after your final decision.
[align center]
[after 6 seconds]
Have you decided?
[continued]
[align center]
[after 8 seconds]
[[I know what is love.|IDCLOUD 1]]
[[Go back.|HUB]]
[continued]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]
{no ambient sound}[align left]
[align center]
{cycling link for: 'answer1', choices: ["Love", "Loving someone", "Love on its own", "Love in its highest form", "The act of loving"]} {cycling link for: 'answer2', choices: ["is", "is not", "can be", "cannot be", "probably is", "probably is not"]} {cycling link for: 'answer3', choices: ["good", "selfish", "duty", "friendship", "sacrifice", "transient", "understandable"]}
[continued]
</ul>
***
[[Continue.|IDCLOUD 2]]
[[Go back.|HUB]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/storm.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
{ambient sound: 'reimu'}
REIMU: What is it?
DIOTIMA: I was wondering if could ask something of you.
REIMU: Shoot.
DIOTIMA: You are this land's priestess correct? That makes us peers.
REIMU: Close, I'm its shrine maiden.
REIMU: We're in the same boat, you and me.
Reimu swirls her cup. She into its rippling waves before taking another swig.
REIMU: We've got no idea about the god we're serving. Just trying to make do.
DIOTIMA: Indeed. It's a... less than fulfilling experience.
REIMU: Word.
Reimu points a finger gun at Diotima while saying this.
DIOTIMA: While I'm here, I'd like to ask you, if you don't mind, about love.
REIMU: Love?
DIOTIMA: Love. You already know it was an old passion of mine as a philosopher; exploring the topic of love.
DIOTIMA: I want to know what is love, definitively.
REIMU: Hmm. I'll indulge you. [[Here's what I think of love.|REIMU 2]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]scred: cred - 1
--
{ambient sound: 'youmu2'}
[if youmuSlash && youmuHalved]
YOUMU: ...
DIOTIMA: Youmu?
YOUMU: Ah, I was just concentrating.
DIOTIMA: On what?
YOUMU: The sounds, the animals, the wind...
YOUMU: It's good practice.
DIOTIMA: I see.
YOUMU: [[Let's continue then?|YOUMU 5]]
[continued]
[if youmuSlash && youmuHalved == false]
YOUMU: ...
Diotima waves her hands in the air.
DIOTIMA: I'm not gonna harm you!
YOUMU: I know. I'm just worried I might harm you.
Youmu puts down her sword with more than a little hesitation.
YOUMU: [[Let's continue then?|YOUMU 3]]
[continued]
[if youmuSlash == false]
YOUMU: S-stop! Fiendish ghoul! You may move no closer!
DIOTIMA: I was wondering if—
YOUMU: No!
Youmu brandishes a longsword of a make unbeknownst to Diotima.
DIOTIMA: I was—
YOUMU: AHHHHH! Stay back!
Diotima stops speaking entirely. Youmu holds her sword up defensively.
DIOTIMA: Does that even work on—
YOUMU: The things that cannot be cut by my Roukanken...
YOUMU: [[...are next to none!|YOUMU 2]]
[continued]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
{ambient sound: 'suika'}
SUIKA: Whaddya want?
DIOTIMA: I was wondering if could ask something of you.
SUIKA: Go right ahead.
Suika downs her (seemingly bottomless) gourd again, spilling some on the ground.
DIOTIMA: I would like to know what is love.
SUIKA: Hooh. You don't know?
DIOTIMA: I do not.
SUIKA: No, you think you do. I can see through you and your façade of ignorance.
DIOTIMA: I have no such façade.
SUIKA: You're a proud one alright. Just not honest about it. [[Let me show you how honesty's done.|SUIKA 2]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]positive: false
positive (answer2 == "is"): true
positive (answer2 == "can be"): true
positive (answer2 == "probably is"): true
confident: false
confident (answer2 == "is"): true
confident (answer2 == "is not"): true
confident (answer2 == "cannot be"): true
action: false
action (answer1 == "Love on its own"): true
action (answer1 == "The act of loving"): true
--
[JavaScript]
// This is way more scuffed than it has to be but in my defense it's because I wanted to write a custom explanation for literally every combination but turn out that takes time.
if (!positive && !confident && !action){
// 000
write("DIOTIMA: Now I'm not entirely sure.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: But I think love is an idea. Actions of love are just manifestations of the true form of love.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That form of love must be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (!positive && !confident && action){
// 001
write("DIOTIMA: Now I'm not entirely sure.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: But I think love is an act. There cannot be love without people showing it, living in it.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That means that love cannot be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (!positive && confident && !action){
// 010
write("DIOTIMA: I'm sure of this. I can feel it to be right.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: Love is an idea. Actions of love are just manifestations of the true form of love.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That form of love cannot be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (!positive && confident && action){
// 011
write("DIOTIMA: I'm sure of this. I can feel it to be right.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: Love is an act. There cannot be love without people showing it, living in it.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That means that love cannot be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (positive && !confident && !action){
// 100
write("DIOTIMA: Now I'm not entirely sure.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: But I think love is an idea. Actions of love are just manifestations of the true form of love.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That form of love must be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (positive && !confident && action){
// 101
write("DIOTIMA: Now I'm not entirely sure.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: But I think love is an act. There cannot be love without people showing it, living in it.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That means that love must be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (positive && confident && !action){
// 110
write("DIOTIMA: I'm sure of this. I can feel it to be right.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: Love is an idea. Actions of love are just manifestations of the true form of love.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That form of love must be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
else if (positive && confident && action){
// 111
write("DIOTIMA: I'm sure of this. I can feel it to be right.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: Love is an act. There cannot be love without people showing it, living in it.</p><p>");
write("DIOTIMA: That means that love must be " + answer3 + ".</p>");
}
[continued]
[after 5 seconds]
DIOTIMA: But that's not quite complete.
DIOTIMA: What do you think?
YOU: {text input for: 'yourAnswer'}
[[Continue.|IDCLOUD 3]]
[continued]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/storm.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
Diotima focuses her ghostly energies on Reimu... doing so takes a toll on her and she'll lose her presence while trying.
...and it fails miserably. Reimu's still too buzzed to notice but it appears her spiritual powers prevent Diotima from possessing her. It's like blowing bubbles inside of a hurricane; you're not gonna achieve anything by trying.
[[Give up.|HUB]]
***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/storm.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
Diotima focuses her ghostly energies on Suika... doing so takes a toll on her and she'll lose her presence while trying.
Her will is far from weak but she appears to be nursing some emotional wounds. She might be vulnerable if you can just push through her strength.
**Pick an idea to attack her with.**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
if(value == "Love is duty.")
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"SUIKA CLUES\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
});
[continued]
</ul>
[[Give up.|HUB]]
***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/storm.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
Diotima focuses her ghostly energies on Youmu... doing so takes a toll on her and she'll lose her presence while trying.
She appears to be fearful of Diotima. She'd be easy to enter but fighting off her phantom half will be VERY, VERY draining. It'd be best to end things fast.
**Pick an idea to attack her with.**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
if(value == "Love appears differently in many ways." || value == "Love is a wild, ultimately transient state." || value == "Love is selfish.")
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"YOUMU CLUES\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
});
[continued]
</ul>
[[Give up.|HUB]]
***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/storm.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]DIOTIMA: Interesting.
DIOTIMA: I could tell you were listening in for a little while now.
DIOTIMA: Like me, you are but an observer of this world. A guest not a resident.
DIOTIMA: I spent so much time pursuing love both as an act and as idea that I fear I've died without ever achieving really finding it.
DIOTIMA: I don't regret it though. With all the earthly pains that love can bring comes all its pleasures. Not pleasures of the body I mean, but those of the soul.
DIOTIMA: I think I'm going to be wandering like this for a while. As a ghost, I mean. At least, until I'm truly satisfied with what I know.
DIOTIMA: How about you?
DIOTIMA: Are you still searching for something?
YOU: {text input for: 'yourAnswer'}
[[Continue.|IDCLOUD 4]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]DIOTIMA: I see.
DIOTIMA: I can only wish you the best of luck on your journey and hope you wish the same of me.
Diotima stands, her legs returned. She makes her way to the grilled lamprey from earlier.
DIOTIMA: It appears that while I've not come to a perfect answer my progress has returned my mortal, physical form to me.
DIOTIMA: It is time to celebrate.
Her hands still passes through the skewer. She is slightly more solid now however so rather than it passing through harmlessly she knocks the skewer over and it falls onto the ground.
DIOTIMA: ...
DIOTIMA: Well, [[FU—|Ending]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued][align center]
Author here, this is the end of the game. I'd put a painting here to substitute a thousand words of congratulations but given budget restraints I've elected to give you exactly one word of congralutions.
**Congratulations!**
~~Feel free to replay the game since there's at least two different approaches to beating it.~~
~~<a href="https://forms.gle/MeWRtgSVCUPxZfVH9">Or answer the feedback form as that would be greatly appreciated.</a>~~
{ambient sound: 'ending'}
{restart link, label: "RESTART"}
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred (cred < 5): cred + 1
--
[align center]
BEGIN DIALOGUE
[align left]
REIMU: Love appears differently in many ways.
[[QUESTION|REIMU 2a]] or
[[PRESENT|REIMU 2 PRESENT a]]
[if progressReimuA == 0]
REIMU: But true love is comfortable, tranquil, like a lazy Sunday.
[[QUESTION|REIMU 2b]] or
[[PRESENT|REIMU 2 PRESENT b]]
[else]
REIMU: Love is eternal and reliable.
[[PRESENT|REIMU 2 PRESENT b]]
[continued]
REIMU: I think then that love is at its purest in friendship.
[[QUESTION|REIMU 2c]] or
[[PRESENT|REIMU 2 PRESENT c]]
[[Go back.|HUB]]
***
~~GAINED "Love appears differently in many ways."~~
***
**Ideas**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
var newItem = "Love appears differently in many ways.";
inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li>" + value + "</li>");
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
REIMU: I think then that love is at its purest in friendship.
[[RETURN|REIMU 2]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]
[JavaScript]
if(cred < 0){
document.body.setAttribute("class", "stop-scrolling");
}cred: cred - 1
--
DIOTIMA: I think we have similar lines of thinking.
REIMU: Really?
DIOTIMA: Yes, I had my own theory regarding love. I compared it to a ladder one has to climb. Carnal affections were at the lowest rungs and ascending past that is an important step.
REIMU: That does sound interesting. You sure you haven't figured it out yet?
DIOTIMA: I recognize its flaws. It was less an explanation of what is love and more of the process to understanding love.
DIOTIMA: Even so, I think I did pretty good with that one.
[[Go back.|REIMU 2]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
progressReimuA: progressReimuA + 1
--
DIOTIMA: What makes you say that?
REIMU: Well, there's love and then there's lust right?
REIMU: What's the difference between the two?
DIOTIMA: Oh. Is it because lust is superficial?
REIMU: Bingo. It's like Suika wanting to drink or you wanting to eat.
Diotima pouts. Reimu chuckles.
REIMU: We'll find you whatever ghosts eat later. Youmu's mistress has a whole village's worth of food stocked and then some.
DIOTIMA: Her mistress?
REIMU: Yuyuko. She's a ghost too.
DIOTIMA: I see, would you continue?
REIMU: Right. So if lust is like an impulse, love should be the opposite.
REIMU: Love is comforting, reliable. It's eternal.
REIMU: ...damn that sounds cheesy.
[[It does.|REIMU 2]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]cred: cred - 1
--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
[if progressReimuA == 0]
REIMU: But true love is comfortable, tranquil, like a lazy Sunday.
[else]
REIMU: Love is eternal and reliable.
[continued]
[[RETURN|REIMU 2]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
if(progressReimuA != 0 && value == "Love is a wild, ultimately transient state.")
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"REIMU 3\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]
[JavaScript]
if(cred < 0){
document.body.setAttribute("class", "stop-scrolling");
}cred: cred - 1
--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
REIMU: Love appears differently in many ways.
[[RETURN|REIMU 2]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]
[JavaScript]
if(cred < 0){
document.body.setAttribute("class", "stop-scrolling");
}cred: cred - 1
--
DIOTIMA: How can love appear differently?
REIMU: It's like that story you told. We use our senses to experience the world.
REIMU: Love looks different from different perspectives.
DIOTIMA: Does mean they're all correct?
REIMU: I hope you're not trying to trick me into the trap you got your student in.
DIOTIMA: No promises.
REIMU: Well, in that case, no. They're not all correct.
DIOTIMA: How come?
REIMU: Well they're all just getting one side of the story.
REIMU: Love is all of it.
Reimu does a big gesture waving her hands in the air.
REIMU: But to say any one bit of it is love as a whole is wrong.
DIOTIMA: They are all getting pieces of the truth, is what you're saying?
REIMU: That's right.
[[Go back.|REIMU 2]]
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]DIOTIMA: *Now wait a moment. I do anything of that sort.*
Diotima sighs.
DIOTIMA: *I think we've gotten a bit muddled on our way here. Let me try and retrace my steps again.*
DIOTIMA: *We'll at least skip past Socrates though.*
[[Restart from checkpoint.|INTERLUDE 1]]
[CSS]
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--
DIOTIMA: Reimu, I do agree with you on many things regarding love.
DIOTIMA: But I believe Suika raised a good point when I spoke with her.
REIMU: What's that?
DIOTIMA: Love is a wild, ultimately transient state.
DIOTIMA: To choose to love a person, to open up to them is a continous risk. It means being vulnerable around them.
DIOTIMA: You said yourself that love can appear in many different ways. You understood love at its highest form as the kind of respite found in friendship.
DIOTIMA: But even friendships can be fickle things and betrayal is hardly unheard of.
REIMU: Are you saying love is just chaos?
DIOTIMA: I am not. I am simply pointing out that trying to rank different manifestations of love over each other is still just giving different examples of love.
DIOTIMA: To understand love, we'd need something more robust as simple examples always have exceptions.
REIMU: ...hm. You have a point.
REIMU: I'm not fully convinced but you did prove me wrong. I probably won't think too hard on it though.
REIMU: But thanks anyways. That was interesting.
[[Return.|HUB]]
~~You've gained credibility.~~
~~GAINED "Examples of love cannot explain what is love."~~
~~LOST "Love is a wild, ultimately transient state."~~
***
[if cred == 1]
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[if cred == 2]
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[if cred == 3]
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[if cred == 4]
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[if cred == 5]
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inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
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[continued]Entering into Youmu's mind (or soul, Diotima isn't really sure which), she finds herself in a peaceful, tranquil place. It's dead silent.
Inside she finds an idea:
- Loving your master can be difficult.
[[Leave.|HUB]]
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[JavaScript]
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inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
[continued]Entering into Suika's mind (or soul, Diotima isn't really sure which), she finds herself in a vast flowing ocean of aether. It rushes past her ears, roaring. You'd think it'd be unpleasant but it's actually awe-inspiring. Diotima thinks that it'd be exhausting to be like this all the time though.
Inside she finds an idea:
- We all wear façades.
[[Leave.|HUB]]
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var newItem = "We all wear façades.";
inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
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--
[align center]
BEGIN DIALOGUE
[align left]
SUIKA: Love is a wild, ultimately transient state.
[[QUESTION|SUIKA 2a]] or
[[PRESENT|SUIKA 2 PRESENT a]]
SUIKA: It means being vulnerable and opening up to risks.
[[QUESTION|SUIKA 2b]] or
[[PRESENT|SUIKA 2 PRESENT b]]
[continued]
SUIKA: You can't love while wearing a façade! Love is authentic and it can bite ya!
[[QUESTION|SUIKA 2c]] or
[[PRESENT|SUIKA 2 PRESENT c]]
[[Go back.|HUB]]
***
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**Ideas**
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[JavaScript]
var newItem = "Love is a wild, ultimately transient state.";
inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
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});
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</ul>
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[if cred == 2]
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[if cred == 3]
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[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
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background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
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--
DIOTIMA: What do you mean by this?
SUIKA: It means what it means.
DIOTIMA: Could you clarify?
SUIKA: Well, it means that all love has to end someday.
SUIKA: By hook or by crook, I say!
DIOTIMA: You mean an ending in betrayal?
SUIKA: Sure, that's an example, but it's not the only one.
DIOTIMA: Could you formalize this for me?
DIOTIMA: What does it mean to love?
SUIKA: Hold your horses, that's coming up next.
[[Go back.|SUIKA 2]]
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[if cred < 0]
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[continued]
SUIKA: Love is a wild, ultimately transient state.
[[RETURN|SUIKA 2]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
});
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***
[if cred == 0]
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[if cred == 1]
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[if cred == 2]
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[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
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background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
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document.body.setAttribute("class", "stop-scrolling");
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--
DIOTIMA: What kind of risks are you talking about?
SUIKA: The backstabbing kind, the falling out of love kind, the different lifespan kind; I could name you a thousand examples.
DIOTIMA: Will you?
SUIKA: Nah.
Suika takes another big gulp from her gourd. Diotima swears that she saw it empty a second ago.
SUIKA: I'm just saying, I think you already know what I'm talking about.
DIOTIMA: I assure you I don't.
SUIKA: Sure... well go ahead and ask away!
[[Go back.|SUIKA 2]]
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[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
SUIKA: It means being vulnerable and opening up to risks.
[[RETURN|SUIKA 2]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
if(value == "Humans cope with danger by setting boundaries." || value == "We all wear façades.")
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"SUIKA 4\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
});
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</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
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background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
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DIOTIMA: Was that targeted at me?
SUIKA: I ain't talking to anyone else here am I?
DIOTIMA: It just doesn't seem relevant. We're not talking about me.
SUIKA: I think it's very relevant.
DIOTIMA: Could you at least clarify what you mean by façade?
SUIKA: Nah.
DIOTIMA: You're very rude.
SUIKA: I'm very honest, you mean. You're the one being rude by interrupting my sorrows drowning!
DIOTIMA: *Stubborn. It'll take more to get to her to concede on this point.*
[else]
DIOTIMA: Since you're not cooperating, how about we reverse things?
SUIKA: Ooh, is that a challenge?
DIOTIMA: Take it how you will.
SUIKA: Haha! Now you're speaking my language.
DIOTIMA: I'll supply the argument, and you challenge my points.
SUIKA: Hm. Sure! It's no fight but at least you're making it interesting for a change.
[[Continue.|SUIKA 3]]
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[[Go back.|SUIKA 2]]
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[continued]
SUIKA: You can't love while wearing a façade! Love is authentic and it can bite ya!
[[RETURN|SUIKA 2]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
if(value == "Humans cope with danger by setting boundaries." || value == "We all wear façades.")
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"SUIKA 4\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
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[if cred == 1]
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[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
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}Diotima begins her argument.
DIOTIMA: I believe that love is state of order and coexistence.
DIOTIMA: It means putting up boundaries and picking your battles.
DIOTIMA: You must love while wearing a façade! Love is authentic and it can bite you!
Diotima concludes her argument.
SUIKA: Well that was dumb! You just inverted my own argument.
DIOTIMA: Indeed. Does that mean you're backing down?
SUIKA: Oh hell no. I'm decimating your argument. First:
SUIKA: If love is order then how do you explain breakups, manipulation, and all the messy stuff in love?
DIOTIMA: Hm. Breakups are merely the end of order. Manipulation and similar examples are the same; though it is still called love from the outside, those inside of the relationship can tell there's a difference.
SUIKA: Fine. I'll admit I was overeager there. What was your third point again?
DIOTIMA: It was, "you must love while wearing a façade! Love is authentic and it can bite you!"
SUIKA: Well isn't that already contradicting itself? Love is authentic but has a façade?
DIOTIMA: Not quite. I said that the act of loving needs a façade in order to protect one's self from love's dangerous elements.
SUIKA: Hm. But that goes for all things in life, no? You humans put up walls around yourself because you're weak inside.
DIOTIMA: That's true.
SUIKA: Then that's less explaining love than an explanation of coping with it.
DIOTIMA: That... is also true.
SUIKA: Does that mean... I win?
DIOTIMA: Indeed, you won that argument Suika.
SUIKA: Hm. Well it's less dramatic than a fight but that's actually pretty fun!
DIOTIMA: [[Now let us return to your original argument.|SUIKA 2]]
SUIKA: H-huh?
[[Go back.|SUIKA 2]]
***
~~GAINED "Humans cope with danger by setting boundaries."~~
***
**Ideas**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
var newItem = "Humans cope with danger by setting boundaries.";
inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
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DIOTIMA: Suika, do you truly believe that loving without boundaries is the only form of love?
The two sit in silence. Suika pauses from her drinking and stares at the ground.
DIOTIMA: I once loved too. And then it ended.
Suika looks back up at Diotima, floating.
SUIKA: How come?
DIOTIMA: I thought he wanted me just as I wanted him.
DIOTIMA: What he wanted was just a wife, not me. When the pieces didn't fit, we went our seperate ways.
DIOTIMA: All things considered it was more amicable than most breakups, though it didn't feel like it at the time.
SUIKA: ...do you still talk?
DIOTIMA: ...
DIOTIMA: ...not really.
Suika sighs from a place deep inside.
SUIKA: I'm an oni. We're the strong, honest ones around here.
SUIKA: When an old flame of mine avoided me, I understood why. She has her own different life now. Her old identity is behind her. I got that part.
SUIKA: I wasn't hoping for the same old as if nothing had happen but... she shut me out entirely.
SUIKA: There aren't a lot of us left, so even if she want to give me the cold shoulder I just... I just can't get over her.
SUIKA: But I know I'm just being selfish aren't I? It's her decision and it would be right to respect it... so why am I torn up? Why do I feel so guilty?
The two sit in silence again. Suika lifts her gourd above her head, but it's empty. She sighs and plugs it. The sound of the gourd refilling fills the empty air.
SUIKA: Ya got me. I'm a whiny liar just like you. Happy?
Suika takes another swig.
DIOTIMA: ...
DIOTIMA: Huhuhu...
SUIKA: Hm?
DIOTIMA: Hahaha! Well if it got you to admit it then yeah! I'm a whiny selfish liar like you and like everyone else on this damned world!
DIOTIMA: I suppose that makes both of us the losers of this argument, no?
SUIKA; ...PHAHAHA!
Suika's laugh is much deeper and louder than Diotima despite her diminuitive size.
SUIKA: Yeah, yeah I guess so.
[[Return.|HUB]]
~~You've gained credibility.~~
~~GAINED "Love is selfish."~~
[todo]
Figure out which of the two possible ideas were used by saving it in a variable and then clear it (POST-JAM)
[continued]
***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[JavaScript]
if (inventory.indexOf("Humans cope with danger by setting boundaries.") > -1) {
inventory.splice(inventory.indexOf("Humans cope with danger by setting boundaries."), 1);
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if (inventory.indexOf("We all wear façades.") > -1) {
inventory.splice(inventory.indexOf("We all wear façades."), 1);
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inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
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[CSS]
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--
Youmu cuts at Diotima. Shockingly, it hurts. The girl was not lying about that sword's ability.
She's not dead though. Dead again? Second death? Whatever she isn't, Diotima is also starting off on the wrong foot with Youmu.
***
~~You've lost credibility.~~
***
Youmu gapes at her apparent inability to (perfectly) cut this phantom.
YOUMU: Oh god, you're not dead.
DIOTIMA: Ouch, shit.
DIOTIMA: Well maybe being a shivering, shaking, scared mess didn't do your swinging arm any favors.
YOUMU: Oh.
DIOTIMA: Oh; and hello to you too. I wasn't exactly planning on harming you but now you're making me feel like it.
YOUMU: I am so sorry.
Youmu bows deeply.
YOUMU: I just... reacted on instinct. Please let me make it up to you.
DIOTIMA: Fine. Would you help me out if have a request of you?
YOUMU: Absolutely!
DIOTIMA: No matter the request?
YOUMU: Positively!
DIOTIMA: Alright. Then I was wondering if could ask you to explain to me what is love.
YOUMU: ...
YOUMU: I have a bad feeling about this.
YOUMU: But a promise is a promise. [[Here's what I think.|YOUMU 3]]
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BEGIN DIALOGUE
[align left]
YOUMU: Love is duty.
[[QUESTION|YOUMU 2a]] or
[[PRESENT|YOUMU 2 PRESENT a]]
[if progressYoumuA == 0]
YOUMU: To love thy neighbor, thy master, and thy family is to love.
[[QUESTION|YOUMU 2b]] or
[[PRESENT|YOUMU 2 PRESENT b]]
[else]
YOUMU: Duty means to act virtuously.
[[PRESENT|YOUMU 2 PRESENT b]]
[continued]
YOUMU: Cultivating love involves obeying one's duty to others.
[[QUESTION|YOUMU 2c]] or
[[PRESENT|YOUMU 2 PRESENT c]]
[[Go back.|HUB]]
***
~~GAINED "Love is duty."~~
***
**Ideas**
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[JavaScript]
var newItem = "Love is duty.";
inventory.indexOf(newItem) === -1 ? inventory.push(newItem) : console.log("This idea already exists");
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
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});
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***
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 5]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
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Successful!
...at getting past Youmu's physical defenses. But her ghostly half will be even more challenging to overcome, will you [[continue|YOUMU H 1]]?
[[Give up.|HUB]]
[else]
Attempting to haunt Youmu proves difficult as she turns to face Diotima every time she tries to approach her. Perhaps, she needs a little convincing before she lets her guard down?
[[Give up.|HUB]]
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DIOTIMA: ...would you elaborate on that?
YOUMU: Love is when you act dutifully, act in accordance with personal virtues and external laws, and express your love by acting in such a manner.
DIOTIMA: Could you put that in practical terms?
YOUMU: Sure, I have a few examples coming up.
[[Go back.|YOUMU 3]]
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[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
YOUMU: Love is duty.
[[RETURN|YOUMU 3]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
if(value == "Love is selfish." || "Loving your master can be difficult.")
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"YOUMU 4\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else if (value =="Examples of love cannot explain what is love.") {
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"YOUMU 4a\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
else
{
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
}
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
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[JavaScript]
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}progressYoumuA: 1
cred: cred - 1
--
DIOTIMA: Elaborate?
YOUMU: To act in accordance with your duty to others is love. Taking care of chores, doing good deeds, and being a kind person is love.
DIOTIMA: Okay. is this duty just those 3 specific things?
YOUMU: No, I suppose not.
DIOTIMA: How would you generalize this? Without going as far as to be as vague as a single word answer, that is.
YOUMU: Well, I guess I'd say duty is based on virtues. There are many virtues but the principle is to balance your virtues and your vices by acting accordingly.
[[Intriguing.|YOUMU 3]]
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[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
[if progressYoumuA == 0]
YOUMU: To love thy neighbor, thy master, and thy family is to love.
[else]
YOUMU: Duty means to act virtuously.
[continue]
[[RETURN|YOUMU 3]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
[continued]
[JavaScript]
if(cred < 0){
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}cred: cred - 1
--
DIOTIMA: Obeying duty means becoming a loving person?
YOUMU: Exactly.
DIOTIMA: I feel as though, and I know you wouldn't because you're an honest person, you've taken a code of ethics and a moral philosophy and supplanted goodness for love.
YOUMU: A-ah, uhm, I—
DIOTIMA: You wouldn't do that though.
YOUMU: No!
DIOTIMA: And you certainly wouldn't strike a defenseless, confused philosopher right?
Youmu squirms uncomfortably.
[[Go back.|YOUMU 3]]
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--
[if cred < 0]
{embed passage: 'HUB LOSS'}
[continued]
YOUMU: Cultivating love involves obeying one's duty to others.
[[RETURN|YOUMU 3]]
***
**Pick an idea to present**
<ul>
[JavaScript]
inventory.forEach(function(value, index){
write("<li><a href=\"javascript:void(0)\" data-cb-go=\"{passage.name}\">" + value + "</a></li>");
});
[continued]
</ul>
***
[if cred == 0]
Your credibility is ABYSMAL.
[if cred == 1]
Your credibility is LOW.
[if cred == 2]
Your credibility is SHAKY.
[if cred == 3]
Your credibility is SOLID.
[if cred == 4]
Your credibility is UNDOUBTABLE.
[CSS]
#backdrop {
background-image: url("Assets/Images/shrine.jpg");
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-size: cover;
}
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[JavaScript]
if(cred < 0){
document.body.setAttribute("class", "stop-scrolling");
}youmuHalved: true
--
DIOTIMA: These are certainly unique conceptions of love, Youmu.
DIOTIMA: I admit that your idea of love as duty stands as very different the other ideas about love I've heard so far.
YOUMU: Thank you...?
DIOTIMA: But—
YOUMU: And there's always a but...
DIOTIMA: I cannot accept this as an answer to what love is.
DIOTIMA: Love can be selfish, romantic love especially. It can hurt others, it certainly can involve personal desires unrelated to virtues and duty does not need play a role in this.
DIOTIMA: And even if duty comes into play, could you call a servant suffering under a master they still obey a kind of love?
DIOTIMA: Now what I've given here is only a few examples but there are many, many other examples of love out there. I'm not saying yours is worse than the others; I'm saying every example is wrong.
DIOTIMA: Examples always have exceptions and any answer to what love is must contend with all the possible manifestations of what love is.
YOUMU: ...wow. You do make a good point.
YOUMU: Truthfully, those weren't my real thoughts on love. I'm just trying to get this over with.
DIOTIMA: I see.
YOUMU: Well, let me think on it a little more as it's not a questions I've thought much about.
Youmu does just that, closing her eyes with intent and focus. Before Diotima can say—
YOUMU: [[I know what love is now.|YOUMU 5]]
DIOTIMA: You g— okay.
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DIOTIMA: These are certainly unique conceptions of love, Youmu.
DIOTIMA: I admit that your idea of love as duty stands as very different the other ideas about love I've heard so far.
YOUMU: Thank you...?
DIOTIMA: But—
YOUMU: And there's always a but...
DIOTIMA: I cannot accept this as an answer to what love is.
DIOTIMA: This is just another example of love among many. Tell me where does duty come into friendship? Where does it come into romance?
DIOTIMA: You could give examples of course, but I'm not interested in wasting either of our time on this particular point.
DIOTIMA: Examples always have exceptions and any answer to what love is must contend with all the possible manifestations of what love is.
YOUMU: ...wow. You do make a good point.
YOUMU: Truthfully, those weren't my real thoughts on love. I'm just trying to get this over with.
DIOTIMA: I see.
YOUMU: Well, let me think on it a little more as it's not a questions I've thought much about.
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YOUMU: [[I know what love is now.|YOUMU 5]]
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YOUMU: Love is sacrifice.
[[QUESTION|YOUMU 5a]] or
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YOUMU: Whether that be of selfish wants, duty to others, or peace.
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YOUMU: It is a trade and a deal that manifests in many forms; but comes down to sacrifice and compromise.
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DIOTIMA: Very interesting angle, Youmu.
YOUMU: Thank you.
DIOTIMA: Now, could you specify what exactly is sacrifice?
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YOUMU: Oh come on! You know what I'm talking about.
DIOTIMA: I assure you I do not.
YOUMU: IT'S A VERY COMMON WORD.
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DIOTIMA: I ask you to define these things because I want to know if we are talking about the same definition of sacrifice.
YOUMU: Well, I'm not giving you one.
DIOTIMA: Fine. Does that mean I can assume my definition applies here?
YOUMU: Go ahead as long as it isn't anything ridiculous.
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DIOTIMA: More examples, I see.
DIOTIMA: My impression is that selfish wants refer to immoral desires? Are these the same as vices?
YOUMU: Yes. I'm refering to how love can elevate a person's character and how duty is intertwined.
DIOTIMA: And you mentioned duty again here too except it's also a possible sacrifice?
YOUMU: That's right. This is my response. Love can also drag a person down and make them selfish and unloyal.
DIOTIMA: I don't disagree with you on that one. Last of your examples is peace.
YOUMU: Indeed, if love can be chaotic then so be it. If the person in love has decided they're willing to face hardships for the sake of love then I have no place to disagree.
DIOTIMA: Neither do I. And though these are examples I can see that your definition has a common theme that ties them all while still being capable of being expanded on.
DIOTIMA: That's good, if you didn't know.
YOUMU: Oh. Well okay.
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YOUMU: Whether that be of selfish wants, duty to others, or peace.
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DIOTIMA: You make love sound so terrible and dry.
YOUMU: I suppose I did.
YOUMU: I think there's a place for romantic love and the fantasies that come with it as an idea. However, love can also be a hurtful thing can't it?
DIOTIMA: ...yes. I'm well familiar with that fact.
DIOTIMA: Does that mean you think of love as negative overall?
YOUMU: W-well, no, I mean...
Youmu goes back to thinking on the topic.
DIOTIMA: *She needs time, maybe I will have to revisit this line of questioning.*
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YOUMU: I thought about what you said.
YOUMU: And I think you have a point.
DIOTIMA: What point would that be?
YOUMU: That love must be negative overall.
DIOTIMA: !
DIOTIMA: That's... quite the position.
YOUMU: Yeah, but can you disprove it?
YOUMU: It seems to follow logically that if love is about compromises it's ultimately just another risk in life.
YOUMU: And if it ends badly, what then? You've gained nothing but sorrows.
DIOTIMA: [[...|YOUMU 5]]
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DIOTIMA: Youmu, have you loved before?
YOUMU: ...I have.
DIOTIMA: Has it been easy?
YOUMU: No.
Youmu almost scoffs at this and then goes eerily quiet as if reliving some terrible nightmare.
DIOTIMIA: Youmu?
YOUMU: ...oh right. I was just thinking about my... master.
DIOTIMA: Judging from your reaction she seems like a handful.
YOUMU: Aha, well she is.
DIOTIMA: But you love her still?
Youmu ponders but only for an instant.
YOUMU: Yes, with all my heart.
Diotima smiles.
DIOTIMA: I'm sorry for putting you and the others through all this nonsense about philosophy just to come to this conclusion.
YOUMU: ?
DIOTIMA: Though we can never reach it, we know there is love and that love is good, don't we?
DIOTIMA: We can tell instinctively that it must be, even if it is hard to say why.
DIOTIMA: It can come in many forms, it can be calm, it can be wild, it can be steadfast, it can be fickle.
DIOTIMA: But despite evidence to the contrary, I think we can both agree love is good, right?
YOUMU: Yes, yes, that's right.
DIOTIMA: It's relieving to say that isn't it?
YOUMU: It is!
DIOTIMA: Then I'm afraid I'm no closer to understanding what love is than when I began.
YOUMU: Oh.
Diotima smiles mysteriously.
DIOTIMA: Oh well. I'll just make up some close-enough conclusion to satisfy me for now. Good enough!
Youmu is taken aback.
YOUMU: ...you know you remind me of my master when you do... whatever this is.
DIOTIMA: She must be charming.
Youmu chuckles a little and thinks on this.
YOUMU: That she is.
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[continued]DIOTIMA: *I remember.*
DIOTIMA: *Past the fragments and the recent memories.*
DIOTIMA: *I was young and penniless when I arrived in Athens.*
DIOTIMA: *I had left Mantineia in such a hurry, running away from my family and duties to bear a child to someone I did not love simply for dowry.*
DIOTIMA: *So I ran. The rolling hills and clear lakes gave way to Athens.*
DIOTIMA: *Now the wealthy neighborhoods were beautiful. It was such a nice place to live once I had the notoriety to settle at its edges.*
DIOTIMA: *But the rest of the city, where it was not citizens but freed slaves and slum dwellers smelt of dung and crap.*
DIOTIMA: *I lived there.*
DIOTIMA: *The only thing that kept me going under those conditions was the thought of returning to my family with enough money to make up the amount of the dowry I turned down and then some.*
DIOTIMA: *...no that's not right. It was the thought of seeing my parents happy again; seeing them with wide eyes and full stomachs.*
DIOTIMA: *...seeing them not have to stretch out our produce to last the entire week.*
DIOTIMA: *[[Then, I got lucky.|Luck]]*
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DIOTIMA: *Rumors of a plague struck the city and people were scared.*
DIOTIMA: *Scared of losing their families, their livelihood, their lives.*
DIOTIMA: *But if you had nothing like me, you'd know that there was no plague.*
DIOTIMA: *Because if there was a plague, it'd happen in the slums first.*
DIOTIMA: *We were stacked on each other so tight that we'd all have the plague within hours.*
DIOTIMA: *But we didn't. So I took advantage of that. Advised people to do sacrifices, drummed up a response, got everyone involved.*
DIOTIMA: *I lied. Could you blame me?*
DIOTIMA: *Of course you can, I'd blame myself if I were listening to this.*
DIOTIMA: *But I got a reputation from that. I got a path forward.*
DIOTIMA: *It took time but I got the wealth, I got the money and resources necessary to make up that dowry 10 times over.*
DIOTIMA: *So I returned home. I was going to see my parents, I was going to see their smiling faces and...*
DIOTIMA: *...they were gone. The house was gone, the neighborhood was gone.*
DIOTIMA: *It all burnt down one day; who the hell knows when.*
DIOTIMA: *I had my theories. Debt collectors, the family I refused to marry into...*
DIOTIMA: *...or maybe they did it to themselves. Maybe they blamed themselves.*
DIOTIMA: *I've loved and I've lost and I've lost and I've lost and...*
DIOTIMA: *You know what's ironic?*
DIOTIMA: *It's after that I became the philosophy of love.*
DIOTIMA: *Because you know what?*
DIOTIMA: *If I had stayed there and talked them out of the marriage proposal, we'd have starved to death.*
DIOTIMA: *But at least we'd have died together. At least, I wouldn't have loved from afar in vain.*
DIOTIMA: *All I could do was try and learn how to love better next time.*
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